Thursday, October 02, 2008

Deacon Fournier Puts Smack Down on Prof. Kmiec

At Catholic Online, Deacon Fournier describes his National Public Radio debate with Prof. Kmiec:
I just finished a radio program on 89.3, KPCC-FM, a National Public Radio Station. The program was entitled “Air Talk” and hosted by Larry Mantle. I was invited to discuss Doug Kmiec’s Book entitled “Can a Catholic Support Him”. Doug argues that a Catholic can and should support Obama’s candidacy. It was Doug who suggested to the producer that I appear with him.

... My articles on Catholic Online have addressed my disagreements with Doug on many of the issues he raises. In this article I simply want to shed some light on the tactical approach now being taken by Doug in his public appearances so that we can expose and oppose them before it is too late. I truly hope that by taking a strong and public opposition to Doug in this manner I can also help him to see that he is erring in some of what he is saying and confusing many people in the process.

Senator Obama has pledged that as one of his first acts upon assuming office he will sign FOCA (The Freedom of Choice Act) into Law. How can anybody with a straight face claim that he believes that abortion concerns a “moral issue” and then promise to expand it like this horrid Legislation would do? Senator McCain has absolutely opposed FOCA. This is where I discovered a key to clearing away the smoke of Doug Kmiec’s “Federalism v Pro-life” argument.This fact concerning Obama's support of FOCA cannot be refuted. FOCA is lethal for our first neighbors and will actually increase abortions! It will not only have the effect of codifying Roe but will do much more.

Since the Webster and Casey opinions, the Supreme Court has upheld State limitations on abortion, such as requiring parental involvement, informed consent and prohibiting government funding of most abortion. The Court also recently outlawed most so called “partial birth abortions”. FOCA would undo all of this, essentially nullifying any limitations on abortion on demand through all nine months.

Doug was aware of the implications of the Act and seemed befuddled when I raised it. After all, he is endorsing a candidate who promises to sign it if elected. I then quoted a portion of the well written letter from Cardinal Rigali delivered to Congress this week where his Eminence addressed this kind of contradictory approach writing: “…there is one thing absolutely everyone should be able to agree on: We can’t reduce abortions by promoting abortion…. No one who sponsors or supports legislation like FOCA can credibly claim to be part of a good-faith discussion on how to reduce abortions.” This was an effective way of exposing the facts in a new way. Doug tried to return to his script, engaging in a tired effort to address those he calls “Religious Faith Partisans” and their "singular focus" on reversing Roe v Wade. It did not work. Doug knows I am not what he now calls a “Religious Faith Partisan”. I support the full gamut of life issues and embrace the whole life/pro-life position set forth in Catholic Social teaching.

The next place we can clear away the smoke is by contesting Doug's argument that the Democratic Party, by emphasizing economic support for women who “choose” not to abort and “sex education” for young people (whatever that term means), is somehow acting more “morally” than the Republican Party. I simply pointed out that both major Party Platforms now make almost the same promises and it is a non-issue. All he could manage was to try to reach into the past and point out the failures of Republicans. I do not disagree. I insisted that the concern I had for the recognition of the fundamental right to life was not a partisan issue. I made an effort to return the discussion to his support of a candidate who openly fails to recognize the right to life of an entire category of persons, our first neighbors in the womb, and supports the “right” to reach into that home and kill them. Finally, he spoke of Catholic Social Teaching. I know it and embrace it. I insisted that I am a “reluctant Republican”, a former Democrat who left the Party when they failed to hear the cry of the poorest of the poor, children in the womb, and that I was working to ensure that both Parties embrace it. I ended by returning to his misguided effort to persuade Catholics that, when there is a real difference in the candidates concerning the Fundamental Human Right to Life, that one could "morally" choose to support a candidate who favored abortion...

(emphasis added)

On this same topic, yesterday I linked to an outstanding piece by Amy Welborn that I also strongly encourage you to read.

Previous Pro Ecclesia posts on this subject:
Kmiec's Payoff? [UPDATED]

The Obama-Kmiec Magical Mystery "Faith Tour"

Deacon Fournier: "Doug Kmiec’s ‘Can a Catholic Support Him?’ Asks the Wrong Question"

Ponnuru Raps Kmiec for Defending Obama's Born-Alive Vote

"Separate But Equal" Redux - Pro-Life Edition

Mark Stricherz: "Why the Democratic Abortion Strategy is Worse"

Whither the "Catholic Vote"? Some Interesting Posts at the Fidelis Blog

Darwin Catholic: "Douglas Kmiec, Master of Dissembling" [UPDATED]

Prof. Rick Garnett on Kmiec's "Missing the Point"

A Former Student of Prof. Kmiec Speaks Out ...

Prof. Kmiec Shifts the Goalposts

Kmiec's "Bridge Too Far"? Obama's Attacks on Justice Thomas

Without Further Ado: Doug Kmiec on McCain v. Obama at Saddleback [UPDATED]

Paging Prof. Kmiec ...

Doug Kmiec Claims Democrats Making "Steps Toward Honoring Life" in Platform

Prof. Garnett Takes on Prof. Kmiec ... Again

Casey Jr. to Get Prime-Time Slot in Denver to Appease Catholics [UPDATED]

Fr. Neuhaus Responds to Doug Kmiec

Deal Hudson's Open Letter to Doug Kmiec

National Catholic Register on Catholics, Kmiec, and Obama

Prof. Hadley Arkes: "Political Distraction Among the Catholics"

Doug Kmiec - What He Said Then vs. What He Says Now Re: Constitutional Jurisprudence

What is the "Pro-Life Position" Regarding Abortion?


Unrequited Love

Doug Kmiec: "After Meeting with Barack" [UPDATED]

Cranky Conservative: "But At Least He Says It with a Smile"

Doug Kmiec Again Places Platitudes Above Policy [UPDATED]

Prof. Bainbridge on "Obama, Abortion, & Catholics"

Prof. Rick Garnett on Kmiec's Latest Nonsense

Deacon Keith Fournier: "Why I Disagree with Doug Kmiec, Once Again"

Give It a Rest Already, Prof. Kmiec!

Deacon Keith Fournier: "No More ‘Left’ or ‘Right’, Time for a New Catholic Action"

Doug Kmiec's Newfound Celebrity Status Among Those on the Left

Doug Kmiec Soon To Be Sorely Disappointed

E.J. Dionne on Kmiec Being Denied Communion [UPDATED]

Deal Hudson on Prof. Kmiec and Blurring the Lines Between "Pro-Choice" and Pro-Abortion

Did Doug Kmiec Just Now Catch On That Obama and NARAL Are Politically Conjoined? [UPDATED]

Deal Hudson on "How Obama's Catholics Will Dodge the Infanticide Question"

Kmiec's Dishonesty [UPDATED]

Catholic Teaching and Political Risk Taking: When Credit Isn't Given Where Credit is Due [UPDATED]

Kmiec's Wishful Thinking on Obama and Abortion

The Curt Jester: "Shameless Garment" [UPDATED]

So-Called "Catholic Reaganite" Doug Kmiec Endorses Obama [UPDATED]

"No'bama for Me, Thanks"

Can a Catholic Vote for Obama?

Obama's Pledge to Planned Parenthood: “I Will Not Yield"

Deal Hudson: "Barack Obama's Catholic Problem"

"Why American Catholics are Supporting Barack Obama"

Catholics at the Ballot Box

How the Catholic Left Will Tackle McCain

Why Does Kmiec Criticize McCain for Positions on Which He Gave Romney a Pass?

Deal Hudson on "Douglas Kmiec and the Lure of Obama"

Douglas W. Kmiec on "The Moral Duty to Inquire"

Professor Bainbridge: "Will Catholic Reaganites Go for Obama?"

Deal Hudson: "Preacher Man: Barack Obama and the the Gospel of Liberalism"

"Sorry, Doug Kmiec, But This Catholic Isn't Buying Obama"

Ramesh Ponnuru on Douglas Kmiec and "Catholic Reaganites for Obama" [UPDATED]

Romney Advisor Says Obama "a Natural for the Catholic Vote"

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At 10/02/2008 11:35 AM, Anonymous crankycon said...

So at the end, does Deacon Fournier write, "If you smell. What the Deacon. Is cooking?"

At 10/03/2008 10:08 PM, Anonymous Jack Smith said...

Kmiec has utterly contradicted everything he's written previously for the Catholic Bishops' own news service.
See his record at The Catholic Key Blog.


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