Wednesday, September 17, 2008

More Hate: Trig Palin a Financial Burden Who Should Have Been Aborted

Disgusting:
In stunningly self-centered, cruel fashion, Nicholas Provenzo, writer for the Center for the Advancement of Capitalism suggests that Sarah Palin’s decision to give birth to a child with Down Syndrome, is a financial burden that others are forced to suffer with.

Provenzo, who has written opinion pieces for the Washington Times, Capitalism Magazine, and the Atlanta Journal Constitution, as well as being a guest on Bill Maher’s former show, Politically Incorrect, makes his case for “the morality of aborting a fetus diagnosed with Down syndrome.”

The full first paragraph of the piece which is circulating amidst the blogosphere reads (emphasis mine):
Like many, I am troubled by the implications of Alaska governor and Republican Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin's decision to knowingly give birth to a child disabled with Down syndrome. Given that Palin's decision is being celebrated in some quarters, it is crucial to reaffirm the morality of aborting a fetus diagnosed with Down syndrome (or by extension, any unborn fetus)—a freedom that anti-abortion advocates seek to deny.
My Comments:
Enlightened.


UPDATE (18 September)
A reply to the "objectivists":
'Man,' said the Ghost, 'if man you be in heart, not adamant, forbear that wicked cant until you have discovered What the surplus is, and Where it is. Will you decide what men shall live, what men shall die? It may be, that in the sight of Heaven, you are more worthless and less fit to live than millions like this poor ... child.


Previous Pro Ecclesia posts on this subject:
So, It Turns Out That the Most Hated Person in This Election ...

Michael Gerson: "Trig's Breakthrough" [UPDATED]

Insipid: Sen. Biden Questions the Depth of Gov. Palin's Commitment to Special Needs Children, Pointing to Her Lack of Support for ESCR

The Pro-Abort Candidate for Whom Certain Catholics Would Have Us Vote [UPDATED]

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18 Comments:

At 9/17/2008 4:46 PM, Blogger Nod said...

Disgusting.

How would he like it if we were discussing the morality of aborting persons called Provenzo ex post facto? (I'm not.)

Not so funny, is it?

 
At 9/17/2008 4:46 PM, Blogger Paul, just this guy, you know? said...

Ah, more cause for rage.

So, we should be killing the disabled?

I say that Down Syndrome should be far down the list; let's start with people like this rube who lack compassion for the innocent and advocate for abortion.

 
At 9/17/2008 4:47 PM, Blogger Paul, just this guy, you know? said...

Ah, two bloggers, two similar thoughts, in one and the same minute!

 
At 9/17/2008 6:53 PM, Blogger GrannyGrump said...

Isn't having no heart a pretty profound disability?

 
At 9/17/2008 7:37 PM, Blogger Donald R. McClarey said...

I much prefer the physically and mentally disabled, to those who mutilate themselves spiritually.

 
At 9/17/2008 7:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The criminally insane, most obviously, are not all in asylums.

 
At 9/17/2008 9:48 PM, Blogger RobK said...

I think that we are seeing the battle for the soul of our culture heat up this election, like it never has before.

I keep hearing arguments, like that in your post, that remind me of people like Stalin or Hitler.

What is most amazing to me are the masses who care more for the state of the economy rather than these questions. This too reminds me of decades long past.

 
At 9/17/2008 10:17 PM, Blogger Tito Edwards said...

The Weimer Republic had a lot of this type of commentary run as 'normal' in their newspapers. The similarities are eery.

 
At 9/18/2008 8:54 AM, Blogger Dale said...

This is your mind on Objectivism.

 
At 9/18/2008 10:28 AM, OpenID tjoseph said...

This sick and twisted individual has the nerve to call himself a "capitalist". He, like most Keynesians, gives pro-life, pro-market people a bad name.

 
At 9/18/2008 10:53 AM, Anonymous lauran said...

How characteristic of the Liberal Left--innocent life isn't safe from their attacks even after leaving the womb.

They're consistently base, if nothing else.

 
At 9/18/2008 11:55 AM, Anonymous cg said...

The Gov's son, Trig, is a financial burden to whom?

Like all else, the liberal left want dominion over our personal finances as well as dominion over our persons.

And this is the caliber of hate who the left would like to have in the White House?

That's not stupidity, that's suicidal.

 
At 9/18/2008 1:39 PM, Blogger PB said...

Yeah, this guy just makes me sick.

 
At 9/18/2008 3:59 PM, Blogger Paul Hsieh said...

First, Nick Provenzo has responded to the many misrepresentations of his views in a followup post at:

http://ruleofreason.blogspot.com/2008/09/fundamental-right-to-abortion.htm

Second, I'm going to speak up to support Nick Provenzo's *moral* defense of the 90% of women who have learned that their fetus has DS and who eventually chose to abort.

If a woman takes a serious look at the consequences for her life of having an abortion vs. raising that child, and she decides that an abortion would best foster her happiness in the full context of her life, then that is her legal right. And more importantly, she would also be making the *morally* right choice for herself.

Of course, if a woman chooses to have the DS child, that is her right and I genuinely hope that things work out as well as possible for the child and the family.

But to uphold the 10% women who choose to have the DS child as automatically morally superior to the 90% who choose to abort is wrong.

Those women who have made the difficult decision to abort do not deserve to be tarred with the label "murderer" for choosing their own happiness. And anyone who would attempt to saddle those women with an unearned guilt should be ashamed of themselves.

 
At 9/18/2008 4:12 PM, Blogger RobK said...

Dr Hseih,
The women who choose to have their baby make the morally correct choice. Period. Those that abort their baby are making a morally incorrect choice. Their choice is legal, but is not morally correct.

Killing innocent people is morally wrong no matter what a someone believes. Period.

I imagine there are thieves that would like to say that they believe stealing to be alright. Or rapists who believe that rape is morally acceptable. I imagine there were doctors in Nazi Germany who agreed that the mentally retarded should be killed or that Jews and Gypsies were sub-human. In each of these cases belief does not change the immorality of the act.

If someone believes something incorrectly, we should be understanding - even compassionate, but we should also correct the error. This isn't a child taking candy from a store, this is a parent killing their unborn child.

And Doctor, anyone who tries to defends the indefensible should be ashamed of themselves.

 
At 9/18/2008 4:39 PM, Blogger Jay Anderson said...

Thank you, Rob. An excellent rebuttal to a morally vacuous comment by Dr. Menge... errr ... Hsieh.

 
At 9/18/2008 5:40 PM, Blogger Donald R. McClarey said...

It is truly frightening when one considers the moral monsters in our midst. Most of the felons I have defended over the years have been saints by comparison, I can't recall any of them claiming that their crimes were in any sense good acts, and they did not have the advantages that a good education can bring in life. What makes the death worshiping abortion cult especially chilling is that it has such a firm hold over many of those in our society who are well-educated. Once again we see why Jesus called his disciples from the poor and humble, rather than the elites of His time.

 
At 9/19/2008 12:58 PM, Blogger LargeBill said...

Paul Hsieh,

You wrote: "Those women who have made the difficult decision to abort do not deserve to be tarred with the label "murderer" for choosing their own happiness. And anyone who would attempt to saddle those women with an unearned guilt should be ashamed of themselves."

Wrong. Those who attempt to remove all shame from human behavior/decisions should be ashamed for leading others into earning that guilt.

The saddest part of this argument is that the pro-abort crowd have traveled so far down the path of immorality gaining societal acceptance that now they act shocked when someone (Palin) rejects evil and chooses life.

 

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