Monday, October 20, 2008

Biden: "I'm Not a Pope John Paul [II] Guy"

(Hat tip: Opinionated Catholic and Whispers in the Loggia)

Sen. Biden sticks his foot in it again over abortion, this time dissing the late Holy Father, Pope John Paul II:
... Q: This [abortion] was an issue for John Kerry, do you see this as being an issue for you?

A: I think it's going to be an issue for everybody. Anyone who's a Catholic, a practicing Catholic, this is a dilemma for. There's an expression in law school: hard cases make bad law. These are just very, very, very difficult moral, social and societal choices.

And for me, I am prepared as a senator to say that the framework of Roe v. Wade based upon this imperfect trimester notion captures the gravity of how you should approach this most serious of decisions relating to life and death. First trimester, the state should stay out of it completely because it's a matter of faith, basically, there. Second trimester, there are competing interests, but they're both legitimate to look at. Third trimester, there's an overwhelming burden to say, there isn't a good reason to abort unless it relates to the mother's health. I'm as comfortable as I can be on a really difficult moral dilemma.

To sum it up, as a Catholic, I'm a John XXIII guy, I'm not a Pope John Paul guy.
(emphasis added)

Well, isn't that special? On the bright side, at least he didn't refer to Pope John XXIII as "Pius the XXIII".


[cross-posted at Catholics Against Joe Biden]


UPDATE
Cranky Con adds a good point in the comments:
I didn't realize that Pope John XXIII was pro-choice. The things you learn from Senator Gaffe.

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7 Comments:

At 10/20/2008 2:04 PM, Anonymous crankycon said...

I didn't realize that Pope John XXIII was pro-choice. The things you learn from Senator Gaffe.

 
At 10/20/2008 2:12 PM, Blogger PB said...

yeah... there's a shocker

 
At 10/20/2008 3:07 PM, Blogger Paul, just this guy, you know? said...

We can add John XXIII to the list of other leading Catholic pro-abortion lights of history, including St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, according to Pelosi and Biden.

 
At 10/20/2008 3:19 PM, Blogger Christine the Soccer Mom said...

You know, Biden was the last straw that pushed me into McCain's camp. His performance during the debate was shameful and scandalous. And comments like this only make it worse, IMO.

 
At 10/20/2008 8:33 PM, Blogger island breezes said...

What a bright lad. Which demographic was that (mistaken) comparison for? Certainly not the Catholic youth.

Not the Church Triumphant, for sure!!

Must be the ignorant militant? The 'didn't make it to purgatory' not expectant??

(I know those 'passed on' aren't voting, but they're probably registered...)

 
At 10/20/2008 11:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Frankly it is better that Biden was clear about this, I was more afraid he would come up with some anecdote about how much he and John Paul II have "in common".

Too bad this comment won't get much play, there are too many Polish-Americans in Chicago who are going to vote for pro-choice Obama, even the ones who are weak in their faith will still resent a snub against John Paul.

FD

 
At 10/21/2008 9:50 AM, Blogger DP said...

The Senator (D-MBNA) says the darnedest things.

Not only is he a theological wizard, his grasp of the legal issues is also first rate.

Starting with the fact the trimester scheme hasn't been a factor in analyzing abortion challenges since 1992.

Just remember: Palin's the idiot and Biden's the steady gravitas man.

 

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