Monday, March 03, 2008

Obama in Ohio: Sermon on Mount Justifies Same-Sex Unions

Obama working hard to win the Catholic and evangelical vote here in Ohio:
( - Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) told a crowd at Hocking College in Nelsonville, Ohio, Sunday that he believes the Sermon on the Mount justifies his support for legal recognition of same-sex unions. He also told the crowd that his position in favor of legalized abortion does not make him "less Christian."

"I don't think it [a same-sex union] should be called marriage, but I think that it is a legal right that they should have that is recognized by the state," said Obama. "If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount, which I think is, in my mind, for my faith, more central than an obscure passage in Romans." [ED.: So, the Obamessiah gets to decide not only that the Sermon on the Mount gives license to same-sex "unions"/"marriage", but to decide which parts of our Bibles mean something and which parts don't? Never mind the fact that traditional Catholic (and therefore Christian) teaching on the matter is based not merely on Scripture, but also on Natural Law.] (Hear audio from WTAP-TV) St. Paul's Epistle to the Romans condemns homosexual acts as unnatural and sinful.

The passage from St. Paul's Epistle to the Romans, which Obama dismissed as "obscure," discusses people who knew God but turned against him.

On the topic of abortion, Obama said his support for keeping it legal does not trespass on his Christian faith.

"I think that the bottom line is that in the end, I think women, in consultation with their pastors, and their doctors, and their family, are in a better position to make these decisions than some bureaucrat in Washington. That's my view," Obama said about abortion. "Again, I respect people who may disagree, but I certainly don't think it makes me less Christian. Okay." (Hear audio from WTAP-TV)

Last Thursday, ... as reported by Cybercast News Service, Obama published on his Web site an "open letter concerning LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender) equality in America."

In that letter, Obama said he favored same-sex unions that were equal to marriage--including adoption rights--and that he was open to states codifying same-sex marriages.

"As your President, I will use the bully pulpit to urge states to treat same-sex couples with full equality in their family and adoption laws," Obama said in the letter. "I personally believe that civil unions represent the best way to secure that equal treatment. But I also believe that the federal government should not stand in the way of states that want to decide on their own how best to pursue equality for gay and lesbian couples--whether that means a domestic partnership, a civil union, or a civil marriage."

In Ohio on Sunday, before mentioning the Sermon on the Mount, Obama insisted he was against "gay marriage" and did not mention his support for allowing same-sex couples to adopt children and have the same "family" status as heterosexual couples. [ED.: Of course not. He's still trying to hoodwink ... errrr ... win over Catholic and evangelical voters.]

Before discussing his views on same-sex unions and abortion, Obama told the crowd he was a "devout Christian." [ED.: Well then, that makes it all okay.]

(emphasis and editorial commentary added)

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At 3/03/2008 1:55 PM, Blogger PB said...

I just don't get the Obama fad? We saw a woman on the street corner this weekend in Toledo holding up an Obama sign: "Honk for Barak Obama".

We gave her a thumbs down and watched as she mouthed "come on" to us.

At 3/03/2008 1:56 PM, Blogger Jay Anderson said...

The worst part of it is that she probably thought you were a Hillary! supporter.


At 3/03/2008 2:32 PM, Anonymous paul zummo said...

Day by day Obama just becomes an even worse candidate. So a fairly explicit biblical teaching from an Apostle is to be shunted aside in favor of some non-traditional reading of the Sermon on the Mount. I mean, what is exactly in the Sermon in the Mount is indicative of Jesus' support for gay marriage?

I would say Obama is a fraud, but he's much worse than that.

At 3/03/2008 2:38 PM, Blogger Jay Anderson said...

According to Obama, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" is the basis for treating same-sex "unions"/"marriage" the same as real marriages.

At 3/03/2008 3:41 PM, Blogger CourageMan said...

Of course, if "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" can be interpreted as justifying gay unions (the grounds being "gays want them; if you were gay, you would want them; therefore it's not treating others like you would want to be treated to deny them") -- then the passage justifies quite literally absolutely anything.

Yes, I mean "absolutely" and "anything." There is no grounds for saying "no" to any want or any desire that any other person might have, because that want or desire becomes its own justification and the social denial of it an oppression.

At 3/04/2008 12:09 AM, Blogger Kyle R. Cupp said...

I don't go to politicians for biblical hermeneutics.

At 3/04/2008 10:15 AM, Blogger Jos76 said...

Most Fundamentalists are completely unaware of the historical context of the bible. They are just told what to believe, mostly by people who prey on them and have no theological training. Every theologian agrees on the importance of reading and understanding the Bible in its historical and cultural context. When considered in this way, the life of Jesus and everyone in the old testament is unimaginable in modern times, though the teaching of Jesus are beneficial when understood in our time in history. I am a convinced Christian and I don't agree (call me conservative) with all of the fundamentalists that promote murder, polygamy, torture, incest, and idol worship. If you want to be a Fundamentalist and disregard the historicity of the Bible, then you agree with all that is in it and thus know that many sanctioned people of God in the Old Testament had several wives, had sex with their children, and killed their relatives (the poor kids that did not obey their parents). Oh wait, they probably don't agree with that. It is convenient to use the historical argument for that, but not for the issue of homosexuality. Please worship God and follow Jesus out of love and devotion, rather than what is convenient for you.

At 3/04/2008 10:25 AM, Blogger Jay Anderson said...


What does "fundamentalism" have to do with Catholics? (This is a Catholic blog, in case you didn't notice.)

Furthermore, as I note in my commentary, the Catholic teaching in this area is not based solely on a "narrow reading" of certain Biblical passages, but is based on the Natural Law.


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