Monday, February 11, 2008

Catholic Democrats Going for Clinton Over Obama?

An interesting discussion going on over at, beginning with this post.

See also here, here, here, here, and here.

UPDATE (12 February)
Deal Hudson writes at InsideCatholic:
Long before the New York Times observed Hillary Clinton's attraction to Catholic voters, I interviewed a Catholic vote expert, Steve Wagner, who predicted that "Hillary Clinton Will Win the Catholic Vote in 2008."

When I talked to Wagner in mid-October, Rudy Giuliani was in ascendancy, and our discussion took place in that context. Now that McCain is headed for the nomination, that prediction will need to be reconsidered. McCain has many strengths Giuliani lacks in relation to Catholic voters.

McCain takes away half of the talking points the Catholic Left had prepared for the 2008 general election -- immigration, environment, corruption.

Among all the GOP candidates, McCain was the one most likely to win the Catholic vote in a general election. I will explain why later.

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At 2/11/2008 4:30 PM, Anonymous BillyHW said...

Well, Clinton never voted against a ban on infanticide, only against a ban on partial infanticide.

So I guess you could say she's more pro-life.

Proportionate reasons, you know...

At 2/12/2008 6:02 PM, Blogger Fidei Defensor said...


I just heard Chelsea Clinton speak at my college. She took questions from the crowd, some random local nut-job asked her a question about the need for population control.

Obviously a real grenade of a question, Chelsea however answered it in the context of her mom supporting a "women's right to choose," and thus implied that abortion is a good way to control population, esp. in the third world and among the poor, she sort of back-pedalled then to the old Clinton stand-by "safe, legal, and rare," but then attacked abstinance education as "anti-woman."

Trust me this is just the tip of the iceberg, there was plenty Chelsea's speech about rights for "transgendered americans," and other weird causes, plus enough tax-and spend rhetoric to make my wallet run away.

The event was attended by many curious students (but none were really that enthusiastic) and old spinster types with butch-hair cuts who just glared every-time a cell phone rang or a critical question was asked.

I tried to ask a question about Kosovo but did not get a turn.


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